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Debt paradigm r-vs-g revisit

Date(s): Sun, 11 Oct 2026 11:41:16 -050

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Mr. Nimbus report

Oct 11, 2026, 10:43 AM EDT

[Oct 11, 2026 10:43 AM] Nimbus: Bringing the debt thread from Sep 27 back up, since you left it open:

Your question was: if GNP grows enough each year to cover the debt payments, debt can roll forever — but $40T at 4% compounded doubles every 18 years (rule of 72), so ~$59T in 10 years, ~$88T in 20, ~$130T in 30. Doesn't that invalidate the paradigm?

The answer we landed on: no. Compounding doesn't break it, because nominal GNP compounds too. Sustainability is r vs g — the debt-to-GNP ratio — not the absolute level. The $130T number feels terrifying but it's the wrong metric; that's the psychological trap.

The three dents we found in your bucket: 1. The paradigm assumes its own condition — "GNP grows enough" isn't a law of nature, and US interest outlays are currently growing faster than GDP. 2. Primary deficits stack on top of compounding — g has to beat r plus the deficit drag, a much harder bar. 3. r doesn't stay put — if creditors lose nerve, rates rise, r exceeds g, and stable flips to explosive.

This connects to your Field Notes piece "On US Debt and Collection of Feds Loan from SS / The American Promise Payment." Where do you want to take it next?

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